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		<title>Facebook Profile, Facebook Groups or Facebook Pages For Your Business?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Ong</dc:creator>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>When you want to create a campaign or promote your brand, business or company online using Facebook social platform, sometimes you can be a bit confuse of which service to use, shall you create a Facebook Group or Facebook Page?</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">A lot newbies of Facebook go for a total wrong option and create a normal &#8220;Facebook Profile&#8221; for business or campaign usage and start invite their customers or friends to join them. This is a Wrong Wrong way to promote your business over facebook by using normal profile, why i say so?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span id="more-860"></span></p>
<h2 style="text-align: justify;">Facebook Profile</h2>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Facebook Profile was design for personal usage only, which mean for &#8220;Human&#8221; only,</strong> not for business, website or an event, if you using a personal profile to promote business (including promote yourself) and keep recruiting unknown users, end up your profile will be banned by facebook administrator and you will lose all your information and contacts, that why this is not a smart way to promote your business!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Personal Profile only allowed you to add people that you know in real life! Not for you to add  and getting know new friends and recruit new contact.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a href="http://jerryong.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/facebook_profile.png" rel="lightbox[860]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-871" title="facebook_profile" src="http://jerryong.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/facebook_profile-500x413.png" alt="" width="500" height="413" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><em>Advantage :</em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Your contacts able to follow all your latest activities, everything on your profile can be trace by mini feeds, more interactive</p>
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<blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>Disadvantage :</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Profile limits now set at 5,000 contacts, the more contacts you have they higher chances you get banned, sending out mass message to facebook contacts can also result profile banned.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>example of my Facebook Profile :</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a title="Jerry Ong's Facebook Profile" href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1457102307" target="_blank">Jerry Ong</a></p>
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<h2 style="text-align: justify;">Facebook Groups</h2>
<p style="text-align: justify;">On Facebook Groups, this is more suitable for personal interest and non-profit organization. Example : you&#8217;re looking someone for common interest like paintball, music, food &amp; beverages, religion &amp; spirituality, travel mates, college project and etc.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Now question, can i promote my business using a facebook group? my answer to you is still NO, although they don&#8217;t restrict so much of promoting activity on groups (whether business or non business) but once someone report you and your group activities seem much more related to business and profit, then all members you build in group will be gone too!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Unless you promote in a tricky way</strong>, example : instead of promoting your website in facebook group about &#8220;How to Make Money Online&#8221; , you can promote other related websites and share useful information of making money online in group and make the room more like a forum discussion for interest &amp; not so much for business.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a href="http://jerryong.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/facebook_group.png" rel="lightbox[860]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-868" title="facebook_group" src="http://jerryong.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/facebook_group-499x376.png" alt="" width="499" height="376" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>Advantage :</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Able to send out mass message to all user in your group, easier for latest news update and also viral your business.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>Disadvantage :</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Cannot  add any desire facebook applications, which mean you can&#8217;t customize your group. However basic apps was included like &#8220;Create Events&#8221;, &#8220;Photos Album&#8221; , &#8220;Video Album&#8221;, &#8220;Discussion Board&#8221; and &#8220;The Wall&#8221;</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>example of my Facebook group :</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a title="ONE MILLION FACEBOOK CLUBBERS" href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41854296141" target="_blank">ONE MILLION FACEBOOK CLUBBERS</a>.</p>
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<h2 style="text-align: justify;">Facebook Pages</h2>
<p style="text-align: justify;">If you&#8217;re promoting your business, this is the one. Facebook Pages are special design profiles used solely for commercial, political, or charitable purposes but you may not set up a Facebook Page on behalf of another individual or entity unless you are authorized to do so. This includes fan Facebook Pages, as well as Facebook Pages to support or criticize another individual or entity.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a href="http://jerryong.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/facebook_page_insights.png" rel="lightbox[860]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-870" title="facebook_page_insights" src="http://jerryong.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/facebook_page_insights-436x499.png" alt="" width="436" height="499" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>Advantage :</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Plenty of Facebook Apps for you to install in your facebook pages, like FBML (facebook html), RSS importer, notes importer, marketplace, review apps and etc.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Also come with &#8220;Insight features&#8221; for you to analyst the statistic of users visit your page, example: &#8220;Page Views&#8221;, Unique Views&#8221; Gender analyst and etc.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>Disadvantage :</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">When you send out Facebook page updates, it doesn&#8217;t go to your fans facebook inbox but only create an &#8220;update notifications&#8221; on users home, which sometimes doesn&#8217;t really catch attention of user and miss out your updates</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>example of my Facebook Pages :</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a title="Jerry Ong - www.JerryOng.com Facebook Page" href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jerry-Ong-wwwJerryOngcom/71829795045" target="_blank">Jerry Ong &#8211; www.JerryOng.com</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a title="Friendscino.com - Friends Culture Is Not Optional" href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friendscinocom/25421227780" target="_blank">Friendscino.com &#8211; Friends Culture Is Not Optional</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a title="www.ModelFreelancer.com Facebook Page" href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/wwwModelFreelancercom/33205561037" target="_blank">www.ModelFreelancer.com</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a title="DamansaraPerdana.com.my Facebook Page" href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/DamansaraPerdanacommy/22871299274" target="_blank">DamansaraPerdana.com.my</a></p>
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<h2>Question and Answer</h2>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>I&#8217;m a blogger or webmaster, can i create a normal Facebook Profile to promote my blog or website?</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">NO, <a title="How Facebook make Jerry Ong become public figure over night with 1060 Fans " href="http://jerryong.com/blog/2008/08/how-facebook-make-jerry-ong-become-public-figure-over-night-with-1060-fans/">i&#8217;m did this mistake before and my personal profile was banned</a>. According to Facebook terms of service, Facebook profiles must represent a single individual. Users are not permitted to maintain an account under the name of their organization, or <strong>use personal accounts primarily to promote themselves professionally, include public figure, celebrities</strong>,<strong> bloggers and etc</strong>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Can i own more than one Facebook Profile / Facebook Group / Facebook Page?</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">You can only own ONE (1) Facebook Profile and unlimited (so far) Facebook Group and Page</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>I had created a Facebook Personal Profile for my business, what should i do?</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Lucky you read this blog post, there is 2 option you can consider!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">1st option, Change your Facebook Profile to personal profile and removed any business content like products showcase in your photo albums and create a facebook page for your business.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">2nd option, be good boy, contact facebook <em><strong>sales-support@facebook.com</strong></em> and ask them to help transfer all your facebook profiles contact to facebook page and close your facebook profile.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>My Facebook Account Disabled and Banned, What Should I Do?</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">You can contact facebook support by <em><strong>disabled@facebook.com</strong></em> or <em><strong>appeals@facebook.com</strong></em> and appeals to reactivate your profile or transfer your banned profile contacts to your <a title="Create Facebook Pages" href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php" target="_blank">created facebook pages</a>.</p>
<h2 style="text-align: justify;">Jerry Says&#8230;&#8230;</h2>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Using Facebook as Viral Marketing tools to promote your products, business, brand and even yourself was one of the latest trend, foresee facebook will be very strict on users profile in coming days as recent survey show that a lot of people actually <a title="Facebook Flooded with Almost Half Fake User Profiles " href="http://jerryong.com/blog/2008/10/facebook-flooded-with-almost-half-fake-user-profiles/">misused facebook convenience and created fake profile</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Don&#8217;t forget, your content or product quality was still very important before it go viral, Viral Marketing can  bring up your products and it also can spread a bad words.</p>
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		<title>How Facebook make Jerry Ong become public figure over night with 1060 Fans</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div align="justify"><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Jerry-Ong-wwwJerryOngcom/71829795045" target="_blank"><img alt="facebook_fans_profile.png" src="http://jerryong.com/blog/facebook_fans_profile.png" class="mt-image-right" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px; float: right;" width="339" height="388" /></a></span><b>I&#8217;m officially a &#8220;famous public figure&#8221; now in Facebook with 1,060 fans follow me over night! You might be curious <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22jerry+ong%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=" target="_blank">who the hell is Jerry Ong</a> and what make you have more than 1,000 fans within 24 hours over facebook?</b></p>
<p>Yes, no joking here! read through this post and you will know why i&#8217;m so famous now and special thanks to Everette from Facebook.com for making this happened.</div>
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<div align="justify">The story need to start from last Sunday 24th August, when i login to my facebook account and aware that <a href="http://twitter.com/JerryOng/statuses/897243728" target="_blank">my facebook account had been disabled</a>, this is definitely cannot be accept when you&#8217;re communicating and share information with friends and networks daily and now you&#8217;re banned, i quickly send an email to facebook administrator and report about this and there is no reply until 29th August i received email from facebook customer support and the following is the whole message which make me laugh&#8230; especially the first sentence &#8220;<i><b>Facebook Profiles must represent a single individual</b></i>&#8221; , sounds like i&#8217;m not an actual human but someone from Mars</p>
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<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://jerryong.com/blog/facebook_disabled.png" target="_blank" rel="lightbox[290]"><img alt="facebook_disabled.png" src="http://jerryong.com/blog/facebook_disabled-thumb-500x361.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="500" height="361" /></a></span><br />I quickly reply the email and tell them primarily i prefer to maintain a normal Facebook account which allowed me continue communicate like before with my contacts and will only consider accept their fans profiles page offer if they insist i&#8217;m a public figure because i do not want to re-invite all my contacts to add me as friend in facebook again!</p>
<p>The second reply from facebook still think i&#8217;m a public figure and will help to migrate all my contacts to be my fans on my fans profile page! That is the whole story of how i force to be a famous public figure by facebook. Not too bad, at least i&#8217;m able to keep all my previous contact and create another good channel for them to follow my latest activities through online social networking platform.</p>
<div align="center"><i><b>24 hours before my fans profile page activate</b></i></div>
<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://jerryong.com/blog/before_facebook.png" target="_blank" rel="lightbox[290]"><img alt="before_facebook.png" src="http://jerryong.com/blog/before_facebook-thumb-500x254.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="500" height="254" /></a></span>
<div align="center"><i><b>After 24 hours all my facebook contacts become my fans</b></i></div>
<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://jerryong.com/blog/famous_jerry_ong.png" target="_blank" rel="lightbox[290]"><img alt="famous_jerry_ong.png" src="http://jerryong.com/blog/famous_jerry_ong-thumb-500x259.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="500" height="259" /></a></span><br /><u><b>To all my friends, business partner, model, blogger, talents and associate, do join me on Facebook and <a href="http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Jerry-Ong-wwwJerryOngcom/71829795045">become my fans</a> or <a href="http://www.new.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1457102307">friend</a> now!</b></u></p>
<p><u><b>My Two Cents</b></u><br />If you&#8217;re a problogger or full time blogger active in Facebook, you&#8217;re advice to request&nbsp; / <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php" target="_blank">create a fans profile page</a> to prevent your account being disabled. Facebook take the words &#8220;over active&#8221; without proper definition publish on their user terms. Over social like sending message to your group members, having too many friends, place a lot of comments around, <a href="http://jerryong.com/blog/2008/08/easier_tool_to_update_all_of_your_social_networks_at_once_pingfm.html">too frequent update or ping your status shoutout</a> and etc will result account banned.<br /><u><strong>Facebook Account Banned / Disabled ?</strong></u><br />If you experience account banned by Facebook, you can send email to <i>disabled@facebook.com</i> / <i>appeals@facebook.com</i> and request appeal for the decision made by facebook administrator.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>A <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Loan_shark&amp;oldid=110731824" target="_blank" title="Defination of Loan Shark"><strong>Loan Shark</strong></a></h3>
<p align="justify">is a person or body that offers illegal unsecured loans at high interest rates to individuals, often backed by blackmail or threats of violence. They provide credit to those who are not willing or are unable to obtain it from more respectable sources, usually because interest rates commensurate with the perceived risk are illegal.</p>
<h3>A <strong>Loan Turtle</strong></h3>
<p>is a new name given by Jerry, which descibe a Legal Body offers legal secured loan at goverment approved interest rates to individuals BUT provide &quot;Slow, Complicated &amp; unprofessional&quot; financial service. Why i say so&#8230;..?</p>
<h4 align="center">Photo Source from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loan_shark" target="_blank" title="Loan Shark Advertisement">Wikipedia</a></h4>
<div style="text-align: center"><img width="236" height="273" border="0" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/AhLong002.jpg" alt="An example of an Ah Long advertisement." title="An example of an Ah Long advertisement." /></div>
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<h2><u><strong>Why i called them Loan Turtle?</strong></u></h2>
<p>Recently, i think of buying a car from a friend for my family member! So after survey few banks hire purchase package, i found something &quot;interesting&quot; about Malaysia&#8217;s bank, let see the following conversation&#8230;..</p>
<p align="center">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ </p>
<p><strong>After 3 minutes dialing and passing to hire purchase department&#8230;&#8230;&nbsp;</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Me</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Hi, I would like to enquiry about your 2nd hand car hire purchase interest rates and so, can you brief me more?</p>
<p><strong>Bank M officer</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : U car dealer or personal?</p>
<p><strong>Me</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Personal, not car dealer&#8230;..i&#8217;m buying from a friend!</p>
<p><strong>Bank M Officer</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Kita tak buat Hire Purchase la! (we did not do hire purchase)</p>
<p><strong>Me</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;  : HUH?? How can? i have a car loan with your bank wor?</p>
<p><strong>Bank M Officer</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Kita tak layan direct case (we do not entertain direct case)</p>
<p><strong>Me</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Huh???~~~</p>
<p>Phone hung without saying &quot;Thank You&quot; or &quot;Goodbye&quot;</p>
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<p align="center">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p><strong>After Googling, i decide to try another newly merge bank &#8211; Bank C</strong></p>
<p><strong>Still the same, you need to wait for hell long untill someone care to pick up your call&#8230;</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Me</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Hi, I would like to enquiry about your 2nd hand car hire purchase interest rates and so, can you brief me more?</p>
<p><strong>Bank C Officer</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : New Car or second hand? model?</p>
<p><strong>Me</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 2nd hand BMW&#8230;..bla bla bla&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>Bank C Officer</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Mr. Jerry, as a direct case without Car dealer involve, your interest rate will be very high and approval of loan also harder &amp; longer!</p>
<p><strong>Me</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : ??? Why ? I think my profile was good, shouldn&#8217;t have any problem&#8230;.why need car dealer?</p>
<p><strong>Bank C Officer</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : If you want a good interest rate &amp; fast approval within 3 days, i can recommend our bank panel car dealer to help you &#8230;..his name is XXXX and contact number is 019-3xxxx</p>
<p><strong>ME</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : wait wait wait&#8230;&#8230;. Why i need a car dealer? i just want to apply directly from your bank, how long will it take &amp; what is the interest rate?</p>
<p><strong>Bank C Officer</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : (not so happy) If you really want to apply direct will take 3-5 weeks to process and your interest rate will be very high &amp; you need guarantor&#8230;&#8230;..bla bla bla&#8230;..</p>
<p><strong>Me</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Wah! but you haven&#8217;t see my profile how you know i need guarantor?</p>
<p><strong>Bank C Officer</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : This is our bank policy, if you call my friend(car dearler) he can help you to process easier and faster !&#8230;.. What is your mobile number? i ask him call u now, he know what to do !</p>
<p><strong>Me</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : errmmm&#8230;&#8230; ok ok ! why not you give me the number i&#8217;ll call later!</p>
<p><strong>Bank C Officer</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : No no no, give me your number i ask him to call you immediately!&nbsp;</p>
</blockquote>
<p align="center">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p><strong>Finally, I found <u>Bank H</u> a bit friendly and willing to layan (entertain) me!</strong></p>
<p><strong>So i submitted my profiles &amp; related document &amp; wait&#8230;&#8230;..</strong></p>
<p>and WAIT&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>&amp; Wait&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>wait&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>after a week, i called the Bank H Officer , !@#$%^&amp;*&nbsp; he said, need JPJ V2 report, i faxed to him the next day!</p>
<p>So i WAIT again&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>and Wait&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>&amp; wait&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Another week passed, i called again, Bank H Officer said : Oh, we need seller to issue a invoice to prove he want to sell the Car. Thats all&#8230;.. !@#$%^&amp;*</p>
<p>And i WAIT&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>and Wait&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>&amp; wait&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<h2><strong>CAN YOU IMAGINE NO NEWS FROM THEM AFTER 5 WEEKS?</strong></h2>
<p>Everytime you called them, they said will call you back later, busy &amp; so.</p>
<p>The Worst Part is&#8230;.. After 5 Weeks waiting, <strong>Bank H officer ask me to try Bank P if i cannot wait</strong>, <u><strong>Bank H Officer said Bank P interest rate better and faster</strong></u>! Walau&#8230;&#8230;..what da hell is this, ask people don&#8217;t come to your bank!!!!</p>
<p align="center">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>Now you know, buy a car(2nd Hand) in Malaysia wasn&#8217;t as easy as you think! Never to mention any other kind of Loan&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>thats why <strong>AH LONG</strong>(Loan Shark) still can find customer &amp; active in Malaysia.</p>
<p>thats why you can see <a title="Ah Long - Loan Shark Latest News" target="_blank" href="http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/default.aspx?query=loan+shark">Ah Long news in The Star Newspaper</a> almost everyday.</p>
<p>thats why you can still see <a title="Ah Long Ad. Art of Kuching" target="_blank" href="http://www.kennysia.com/archives/2006/08/art.php">Ah Long Advertisement everywhere</a>!!! Yes everywhere !!!</p>
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<div style="text-align: center"><img width="193" height="275" border="0" title="Loan Shark Advertisement" alt="Loan Shark Advertisement" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/AhLong003.jpg" /></div>
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<p align="justify">Wikipedia Note:<strong> Ah Long</strong> (derived from Chinese word &quot;Dragon&quot; (Chinese: é˜¿é¾?) or short for the Cantonese meaning &quot;tai yee loong&quot; which loosely means someone with huge earrings worn so heavily that the earlobes elongates) is a term for illegal <strong>loan sharks</strong> in Malaysia and Singapore. They lend money to people who are unable to obtain loans from banks or other legal sources, mostly targeting habitual gamblers. They charge a very high interest rate (around 120% p.a.) and frequently threaten violence towards those who fail to pay in time&nbsp;</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="justify"><strong>Jingle Bell &#8230;.jingle bell ~~ Christmas is just month away from now!</strong></p>
<p align="justify"><strong>What about decorate your website, blog or even <a title="Friendster.com" target="_blank" href="http://www.friendster.com">Friendster</a> profile page with this great animated Christmas Snow Effect?! Watch as Snow Flake gently trickles down the page, then disappear, cool right !!! <img border="0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="http://jerryong.com/blog-mt/mt-static/plugins/TinyMCE/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif" />&nbsp; Just follow the simple two steps as stated below and thats all&#8230;&#8230; 2 minutes job</strong></p>
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<p align="left">     <img width="24" height="24" border="0" alt="snow.gif (256 bytes)" src="http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/snow.gif" />       <img width="31" height="31" border="0" alt="(225 bytes)" src="http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/snow2.gif" /><br />     Alternate snow gif: <img width="25" height="28" border="0" src="http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/snow3.gif" /></p>
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<p>/******************************************<br />* Snow Effect Script- By Jerry Ong (http://blog.jerryong.com)<br />* Visit Jerry Ong&#8217;s Blog (http://blog.jerryong.com/) for full source code<br />* Last updated Nov 19th, 06&#8242; by Jerry Ong. This notice must stay intact for use<br />******************************************/<br />&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; //Configure below to change URL path to the snow image<br />&nbsp; var snowsrc=&quot;http://jerryong.com/images/snow.gif&quot;<br />&nbsp; // Configure below to change number of snow to render<br />&nbsp; var no = 20;<br />&nbsp; // Configure whether snow should disappear after x seconds (0=never):<br />&nbsp; var hidesnowtime = 0;<br />&nbsp; // Configure how much snow should drop down before fading (&quot;windowheight&quot; or &quot;pageheight&quot;)<br />&nbsp; var snowdistance = &quot;pageheight&quot;;</p>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; function iecompattest(){<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; return (document.compatMode &amp;&amp; document.compatMode!=&quot;BackCompat&quot;)? document.documentElement : document.body<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; }</p>
<p>&nbsp; var dx, xp, yp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; // coordinate and position variables<br />&nbsp; var am, stx, sty;&nbsp; // amplitude and step variables<br />&nbsp; var i, doc_width = 800, doc_height = 600; <br />&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; if (ns6up) {<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; doc_width = self.innerWidth;<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; doc_height = self.innerHeight;<br />&nbsp; } else if (ie4up) {<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; doc_width = iecompattest().clientWidth;<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; doc_height = iecompattest().clientHeight;<br />&nbsp; }</p>
<p>&nbsp; dx = new Array();<br />&nbsp; xp = new Array();<br />&nbsp; yp = new Array();<br />&nbsp; am = new Array();<br />&nbsp; stx = new Array();<br />&nbsp; sty = new Array();<br />&nbsp; snowsrc=(snowsrc.indexOf(&quot;jerryong.com&quot;)!=-1)? &quot;http://jerryong.com/images/snow.gif&quot; : snowsrc<br />&nbsp; for (i = 0; i &lt; no; ++ i) {&nbsp; <br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dx[i] = 0;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; // set coordinate variables<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; xp[i] = Math.random()*(doc_width-50);&nbsp; // set position variables<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; yp[i] = Math.random()*doc_height;<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; am[i] = Math.random()*20;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; // set amplitude variables<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; stx[i] = 0.02 + Math.random()/10; // set step variables<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; sty[i] = 0.7 + Math.random();&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; // set step variables<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if (ie4up||ns6up) {<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if (i == 0) {<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; document.write(&quot;&lt;div id=\&quot;dot&quot;+ i +&quot;\&quot; style=\&quot;POSITION: absolute; Z-INDEX: &quot;+ i +&quot;; VISIBILITY: visible; TOP: 15px; LEFT: 15px;\&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=\&quot;http://jerryong.com\&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#8217;&quot;+snowsrc+&quot;&#8217; border=\&quot;0\&quot;&gt;&lt;\/a&gt;&lt;\/div&gt;&quot;);<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; } else {<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; document.write(&quot;&lt;div id=\&quot;dot&quot;+ i +&quot;\&quot; style=\&quot;POSITION: absolute; Z-INDEX: &quot;+ i +&quot;; VISIBILITY: visible; TOP: 15px; LEFT: 15px;\&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&#8217;&quot;+snowsrc+&quot;&#8217; border=\&quot;0\&quot;&gt;&lt;\/div&gt;&quot;);<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; }<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; }<br />&nbsp; }</p>
<p>&nbsp; function snowIE_NS6() {&nbsp; // IE and NS6 main animation function<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; doc_width = ns6up?window.innerWidth-10 : iecompattest().clientWidth-10;<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; doc_height=(window.innerHeight &amp;&amp; snowdistance==&quot;windowheight&quot;)? window.innerHeight : (ie4up &amp;&amp; snowdistance==&quot;windowheight&quot;)?&nbsp; iecompattest().clientHeight : (ie4up &amp;&amp; !window.opera &amp;&amp; snowdistance==&quot;pageheight&quot;)? iecompattest().scrollHeight : iecompattest().offsetHeight;<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for (i = 0; i &lt; no; ++ i) {&nbsp; // iterate for every dot<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; yp[i] += sty[i];<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if (yp[i] &gt; doc_height-50) {<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; xp[i] = Math.random()*(doc_width-am[i]-30);<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; yp[i] = 0;<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; stx[i] = 0.02 + Math.random()/10;<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; sty[i] = 0.7 + Math.random();<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; }<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dx[i] += stx[i];<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; document.getElementById(&quot;dot&quot;+i).style.top=yp[i]+&quot;px&quot;;<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; document.getElementById(&quot;dot&quot;+i).style.left=xp[i] + am[i]*Math.sin(dx[i])+&quot;px&quot;;&nbsp; <br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; }<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; snowtimer=setTimeout(&quot;snowIE_NS6()&quot;, 10);<br />&nbsp; }</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; function hidesnow(){<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if (window.snowtimer) clearTimeout(snowtimer)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for (i=0; i&lt;no; i++) document.getElementById(&quot;dot&quot;+i).style.visibility=&quot;hidden&quot;<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; }<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </p>
<p>if (ie4up||ns6up){<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; snowIE_NS6();<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if (hidesnowtime&gt;0)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; setTimeout(&quot;hidesnow()&quot;, hidesnowtime*1000)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; }</p>
<p>&lt;/script&gt; </strong></p></blockquote>
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